Don't mean to sound bitter but does anyone else hate Ibuki Yagami?

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Diko Linnai

Don't mean to sound bitter but does anyone else hate Ibuki Yagami?

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(06/16/08 09:37 PM)

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I know that she's just a kid and has a crush on her teacher and tries to help him out sometimes, but the girl is so conniving and I don't like the little mind games she plays with Kyoko to try to capture her conscience on how Kyoko feels about Godai because it's almost like she wants to use those feelings to twist the situation to her own gain. I don't think teen Kyoko would have acted as such if there were older, more mature competition with Soichiro. Just thinking back on scenes where she locks him in the gym and strips down, tries to sleep the night over in Godai's room, etc. If she were sweeter and not so boldly forward do you think maybe Godai would have thought of her romantically in the least? Even with Kozue Godai thought "if there were no Kyoko I'd fall for you..." And if he doesn't why doesn't he just ignore her or put her in her place?

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(06/17/08 05:28 AM)

Diko Linnai wrote:
I know that she's just a kid and has a crush on her teacher and tries to help him out sometimes, but the girl is so conniving and I don't like the little mind games she plays with Kyoko to try to capture her conscience on how Kyoko feels about Godai because it's almost like she wants to use those feelings to twist the situation to her own gain. I don't think teen Kyoko would have acted as such if there were older, more mature competition with Soichiro. Just thinking back on scenes where she locks him in the gym and strips down, tries to sleep the night over in Godai's room, etc. If she were sweeter and not so boldly forward do you think maybe Godai would have thought of her romantically in the least? Even with Kozue Godai thought "if there were no Kyoko I'd fall for you..." And if he doesn't why doesn't he just ignore her or put her in her place?

Then if there were no Kyoko or Kozue Godai'd fall for Yagami .Somethimes Yagami succeeded in getting Godai's attention. Godai doesn't hate her. He just doesn't like Yagami as much as those two.
I don't hate Yagami. She acts like that just because she is still young, and it's her personality. She is good for someones who love her, but if Yagami's "target" doesn't, oh well, what a nightmare...
I noticed that she is much alike Lum and Shampoo. They both use lots of tricks with their beloved mans, but Yagami's plans are better and more fearful than Lum and Shampoo's.

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(06/19/08 11:37 AM)

I don't hate her, yet don't like Yagami too much but I think that her role on Kyoko's taking coscience about her feelings for Godai is really important.

Perhaps it's hard to say that if there were no Kyoko or Kozue Godai'd fall for Yagami.
He never seen her like a possible wife, instead of Kozue ("if there were no Kyoko I'd fall for you...")
MI begins with Godai's crush for Kyoko and his feeling for her rise for the whole story.
For me it's hard even to image one substitute of Kyoko in Godai's heart

Last Edited By: frappo 06/19/08 11:48 AM. Edited 3 times.

Diko Linnai

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(06/19/08 03:46 PM)

I see what you're saying, she does really add conflict and kind of evokes Kyoko to stop and think about how she really feels about Godai and why she won't admit it to herself. She does, a bit, remind me of Lum and/or Shampoo except of course her 'method's are more realistic even if she is bold.

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(06/19/08 07:10 PM)

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She's definitely my least favorite character in Maison Ikkoku, and is probably one of my least favorite Takahashi characters overall. So yeah, I don't like her too much. Its hard for me to feel sorry for her in any way. She comes into the series as an outsider (literally, she doesn't live at Maison Ikkoku or have ties to any of the characters) and really forces herself on Godai and attempts to make a mess of their relationship. She's also the only character in the series up to that point who acts really nasty to Kyoko, and as a reader/viewer, I'm not used to that. So she certainly doesn't ingraiate herself to the cast of the series or the readers in my mind.

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(06/19/08 10:22 PM)

While I don't really like Yagami, I can't say I HATE her. I think perhaps the only thing that really redeems her in my eyes is the fact that she is so young. She's a kid with an obsessive crush on her teacher which she often lets get the better of her. I really really can't say that in the absence of the other women in his life that Godai would consider Yagami an option. She's far too pushy for him, and too young.

So she certainly doesn't ingraiate herself to the cast of the series or the readers in my mind.

I would certainly agree with that! She's a rather abrasive character and doesn't do much to make one like her.

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(06/19/08 11:22 PM)

I think she's a major pain in the tush

Reading the storylines with her in them really rankled - I got the feeling Takahashi was purposefully trying to make this kid as abrasive and obnoxious as possible. That said, she did have an important role in the series as an impetous of Kyoko and Godai's relationship. Because of that she's a necessary evil, I guess...

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(06/20/08 12:14 AM)

YES! I hate her. She's by far my least favorite character in the books, and none of the chapters she's in do I particularly enjoy. I wish Godai had just given her a swift kick in the pants. And her dad while he's at it.

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(06/20/08 03:02 PM)

lumsdarling wrote:
YES! I hate her. She's by far my least favorite character in the books, and none of the chapters she's in do I particularly enjoy. I wish Godai had just given her a swift kick in the pants. And her dad while he's at it.

Awwwwww, but you have to admit she sure is cute though . . .

when she's ASLEEP!