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herbkir	Kissing in IY v. Kissing in Avatar: A question (Avatar Spoiler)	Lead	[-]
Time Travelling Schoolgirl Posts: 1580 (07/25/08 02:12 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Tags : None Here's something that occurred to me. The Avatar TV series on Nick and the Inuyasha manga both featured young couples who were destined for each other -- Aang-Katara and Inuyasha-Kagome. Avatar finished with a big romantic kiss between Aang and Katara to seal their commitment while IY did everything at the end to show how deeply Inu and Kagome were committed except for having them kiss. Avatar roughly corresponds to a shonen anime. Yes, I know Avatar is an American production. And that brings me to my main point. I think that this differing treatment reflects different romantic expectations of Americans and Japanese in their youth fiction. Americans prefer to see "true love's kiss" for their happily-ever-after endings and the Avatar producers responded appropriately, but I think such a demonstrative kiss at the end of IY would have been seen as massive overkill by most Japanese readers of IY in Shonen Sunday. Your thoughts? (^_*)
tsubasafan		#1	[-]
Obnoxious Alien Posts: 155 (07/25/08 06:00 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	I agree with you. However the Avatar ending romance suprised me. I knew Aang liked Katara but it never came to me that Katra likes Aang til that finale scene you speak of. In the cloud prominitions episode there was a girl that liked Aang alot thus making triangle she liking Aang whereas meanwhile Aang likes Katara but Katara is oblivious to this.
ryogasgirl		#2	[-]
Ryugenzawa Oversized Animal Posts: 277 (07/25/08 07:11 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	In the cloud prominitions episode there was a girl that liked Aang alot thus making triangle she liking Aang whereas meanwhile Aang likes Katara but Katara is oblivious to this. Aang didn't really like the girl in that episode at all, except in the way he likes and cares for everyone, but Katara demonstrated often that she cared deeply for Aang. When he dies at Azula's hand, Katara cries over his body and uses the water from the North pole on him to revive him. Although she too has a big heart and cares for everone touched by the Fire Nation, she has a special place in her heart for Aang. In the same cloud premonition episode, it's hinted at that Katara and Aang were meant to be together when their fortunes are told by the resident psychic. The ending wasn't a big surprise for me for the simple fact that Americans expect more physical romance than do the Japanese. Although Takahashi has had more romance in some of her works such as Maison Ikkoku and OPG, these romances exist among older individuals and in seinen manga rather than the shonen Ranma, UY or Inuyasha - or even Avatar. The only thing I wondered at the end of Avatar was how did the Fire Lord answer Zuko's question about his mother? How did Zuko react when he heard the answer? It was just: he asked and we skipped to the next scene with all of them together at the end.
tsubasafan		#3	[-]
Obnoxious Alien Posts: 156 (07/25/08 07:55 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Oh okay I see. And yes to first part of that is exactly what I said. But for the rest yep hooray.
Tachihaki		#4	[-]
Ronin Posts: 78 (07/25/08 11:10 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	As for her next series, Takahashi said in the interview with The Yomiuri Shimbun, a Japanese newspaper, that she wanted the next series to be read by boys. In my opinion, her stories have contained up until now too much love affections for boys to read. Her main field is Shonen, but it does not seem that she is aware of the fact that love romance NEVER attracts boys, and if she wants to attract boys, she should change her way. The love affection stories in her manga look like Shojo manga. If Kagome and Inuyasha kissed with each other, I do not think it would look like Shonen. I want to make it clear that I never criticizes her style as these love affection factors never vitiate the value of her works and I love it, but I don't think most of boys wants to read love stories. Last Edited By: Tachihaki 07/25/08 11:13 PM. Edited 1 times.
dipinmilk		#5	[-]
Naraku's Slave Posts: 154 (07/31/08 11:40 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Now, I am a mother of two boys, and I have discussed Inuyasha with other boys, too...heck, there's at least one boy who posts on this messageboard! If the storyline had mostly romantic moments in it, then, yes, boys would be sickened by it. However, that's the beauty of Inuyasha: The romance sneaks up on you, a bit, amid all the struggles. Boys can be surprisingly receptive to such light romance. As I have said before, they may be shy about it, but boys like kisses, too. And, maybe, in the process of reading Inuyasha, those boys are learning more about how to treat a girl. Of course, running around with one on their back is probably out of the question... ~dip p.s.-- my older son loves to watch Sailor Moon. ~dip
childisfatheroftheman		#6	[-]
Onsen Mark's Favorite Pupil Posts: 93 (08/01/08 10:44 AM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	I never really thought about it, it just always seemed to be part of the package in her stories, but I think you're absolutely right. If she's consciously aiming her story towards the male audience, she could be going in a different direction than both her previous series and her growing tendency towards more adult-oriented themes. As for Avatar, I've never really liked American-made Japanese-style animation. Japanese-made Japanese-style cartoons are better, they understand their culture and can be creative within it. Most American-made ones I've seen only know it from anime sterotypes and it's broad context, and are usually pretty lame (though, I've never seen Avatar but it looks like there's some fans here, maybe it's the exception). Personally, I'd rather see Americans make more American-style cartoons than ape anime. Justice League was good too, right?
sailorsun90		#7	[-]
Joketsuzoku Villager Posts: 5 (08/13/08 07:15 AM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	childisfatheroftheman wrote: I never really thought about it, it just always seemed to be part of the package in her stories, but I think you're absolutely right. If she's consciously aiming her story towards the male audience, she could be going in a different direction than both her previous series and her growing tendency towards more adult-oriented themes. As for Avatar, I've never really liked American-made Japanese-style animation. Japanese-made Japanese-style cartoons are better, they understand their culture and can be creative within it. Most American-made ones I've seen only know it from anime sterotypes and it's broad context, and are usually pretty lame (though, I've never seen Avatar but it looks like there's some fans here, maybe it's the exception). Personally, I'd rather see Americans make more American-style cartoons than ape anime. Justice League was good too, right? I definitely see your point. "Anime" from America or Europe is usually from anime stereotypes. [Remembers Kappa Mikey. ] Although there has been some really interesting serialized American animation. X-Men & Justice League were phenomenal. Avatar was interesting from time to time. sigh I still wish that Inuyasha and Kagome kissed though, especially since he kissed a few times with Kikyou.
tsubasafan		#8	[-]
Obnoxious Alien Posts: 163 (08/13/08 10:04 AM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	I liked Gargoyles and X-men (not the X-men: Evolution one) but never got into Justice League. I also liked Batman: The Animated Series and well although most people hated it; The Highlander Animated Series. So yes american cartoons don't all suck seawater shrug And I am glad InuYasha series had a happy ending.
TsuyoiHanyou		#9	[-]
Sesshomaru's Toadie Posts: 4 (08/22/08 01:48 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Well that was the 3rd time ang kissed katara so... But yeah i eas expecting a big kiss at the end of the manga seeing as how romantic inuyasha was getting, but i guess rumiko just didnt want to do that.
sailorsun90		#10	[-]
Joketsuzoku Villager Posts: 6 (08/28/08 06:40 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	TsuyoiHanyou wrote: Well that was the 3rd time ang kissed katara so... But yeah i eas expecting a big kiss at the end of the manga seeing as how romantic inuyasha was getting, but i guess rumiko just didnt want to do that. Whoa, they kissed 3 times?!!! Wow... XD Arrrgh, but haven't all the other main characters kissed in her other series?
kagometwin14		#11	[-]
Gosunkugi's Best Friend Posts: 8 (11/23/08 02:49 AM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	I likeed the Avatar ending fine. But i thought the ending for Inuyasha was a little disappointing. No kiss!? I practically yelled at the top of my lungs when I finished the chapter. Also i didn't get it at all. Kikyo and Inuyasha kissed several times and so did Miroku and Sango, why not inuyasha and kagome. plus I bet u more girls watch Inuyasha than boys. I am telling you every time I head to my Inuyasha fan club at school i don't see one boy. there were like 30 girls in one room and not one boy. So if she is trying to get the guys into liking Inuyasha, i'd say she has done a pretty poor job. No offense to her or or anything. I love Inuyasha. But still... A KISS WOULD BE NICE! Hell hath no furry like a woman's scorn!
divinelyn		#12	[-]
Garbage Can Teleporter Posts: 15 (12/10/08 08:42 AM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	After all, it would be so heartwarming to see Inuyasha & Kagome kiss! =D
Inugirlsrok1234		#13	[-]
Sesshomaru's Toadie Posts: 10 (03/20/09 09:12 AM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	I was watching this new batman show this morning and it reminded me of Teen Titans for some reason....
elisabellangel		#14	[-]
Panty Thief Posts: 47 (03/21/09 08:54 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	I think that is more of the style of Rumiko Takahashi than anything else. She prefers to use kisses and sexual innuendos as jokes rather than serious romantic segments. She seems to prefer showing affection and a possible romantic connection in a more concealed fashion. You can easily tell the characters like or even love each other just through their words, expressions and actions. I guess it's believed that we don't need to see them show that affection. I personally think that's refreshing rather than every other media in which it often ends with a kiss to seal the series.
tsubasafan		#15	[-]
Obnoxious Alien Posts: 260 (03/21/09 11:45 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Ah. That's well thought out. Yes that's possibly the answer.
elisabellangel		#16	[-]
Panty Thief Posts: 49 (03/26/09 06:13 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	tsubasafan wrote: Ah. That's well thought out. Yes that's possibly the answer. ^_^ Thanks.. I'd like to believe that the answer would be along those lines... Those are just the conclusions I come to from reading Rumiko's manga for so long.

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